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Stuart444 · Apr 19, 2008, 08:38 PM // 20:38

Thier is way to many enemies in the Southern Shiverpeaks, whenever I go there, I get ganged up on by loads of ice monsters, imps, summit guys etc.

And whenever I try to pull one or two of them away, loads of them all come as if they are all in the same group, they all gang up on one person and then another until we're all dead...

I can't even get to the copperhead mines ;-; which is where I am trying to get too (since it's near the last 15 attribute points quest)

stupid enemies >_<

CandyPrince · Apr 19, 2008, 09:22 PM // 21:22

I remember it well, the first time I did it it was hard. It may be worth getting a few guild members to help you out till you get a few better skills. As you are a warrior, it may help to try a good tanking/defensive build and flag your heros out of the aggro bubble then allow them to attack. Their armor against fire is pretty poor, so I recommend the fire hench as a must! (I assume you don't have heros)

Failing that, give me a shout you have my IGN, I will get you there.

Stuart444 · Apr 19, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28

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Originally Posted by CandyPrince

I remember it well, the first time I did it it was hard. It may be worth getting a few guild members to help you out till you get a few better skills. As you are a warrior, it may help to try a good tanking/defensive build and flag your heros out of the aggro bubble then allow them to attack. Their armor against fire is pretty poor, so I recommend the fire hench as a must! (I assume you don't have heros)

Failing that, give me a shout you have my IGN, I will get you there.

your IGN is where it says character name right?

and I have heroes ^^ whats the fire hench btw? O.o which one is that

oh and yes, it is damned hard, although I've only tried it several times with 2 human players (me and my girlfriend) and 3 heroes each....and we still get killed at the first hurdle of summit creatures and ice creatures (when leaving from mines into frozen forest)

arual · Apr 19, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

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The Fire Magic based henchman in the Southern Shiverpeaks is usually either Orion or Cynn (I much prefer Cynn but oh well).

I remember not finding it too easy the first time I was around the Frozen Forest but pulling and going after the right monsters first made a big difference.

Stuart444 · Apr 19, 2008, 10:58 PM // 22:58

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Originally Posted by arual

IGN = In-game Name. On this forums people quite usefully put theirs in their profile that appears with each post.

The Fire Magic based henchman in the Southern Shiverpeaks is usually either Orion or Cynn (I much prefer Cynn but oh well).

I remember not finding it too easy the first time I was around the Frozen Forest but pulling and going after the right monsters first made a big difference.

whenever I tried to pull monsters away, another one from a group that is right next to the one I was trying to pull interfeared ;_;

Bront · Apr 21, 2008, 07:41 AM // 07:41

Most of the run isn't too bad, at least the first part from the Droks. Just be patient, but there aren't many large mobs in the first place in that section.

Icedome is mostly a practice in careful agroing and watching patrols. The roughest part is the very end, and if need be, just run to the exit.

The Frozen Forest, the very first part is tough, as the patrols will circle around and get you if you're not careful. Best to wait outside of the loop (there's a looped area on the map patrols circle), and hit the patrols as they come by, pull them, and kill them.

There are two things that are rough about the area. There are healers, and it's passable to get multiples in a group. Try to take them out first. The other is the Mesmers, who are rather effective at shutting down your party's monks (or at least they were way to effective at shutting me down when I was doing this as my monk). Live people can help, but this is where, at least for Prophecies, you can no longer get by with any old junk build. Examine your skills, try not to spread out points too thin, and look for synergy and energy management. You don't need to have "1337 skillz", but here is where things start getting significantly harder than they used to be.

Stu, feel free to look me up if you need a hand. IGN Meloran Avenro, Dawn Hayes, or Faith Hayes (any will work, all the same account)

Stuart444 · Apr 21, 2008, 10:37 AM // 10:37

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Originally Posted by Bront

Most of the run isn't too bad, at least the first part from the Droks. Just be patient, but there aren't many large mobs in the first place in that section.

Icedome is mostly a practice in careful agroing and watching patrols. The roughest part is the very end, and if need be, just run to the exit.

The Frozen Forest, the very first part is tough, as the patrols will circle around and get you if you're not careful. Best to wait outside of the loop (there's a looped area on the map patrols circle), and hit the patrols as they come by, pull them, and kill them.

There are two things that are rough about the area. There are healers, and it's passable to get multiples in a group. Try to take them out first. The other is the Mesmers, who are rather effective at shutting down your party's monks (or at least they were way to effective at shutting me down when I was doing this as my monk). Live people can help, but this is where, at least for Prophecies, you can no longer get by with any old junk build. Examine your skills, try not to spread out points too thin, and look for synergy and energy management. You don't need to have "1337 skillz", but here is where things start getting significantly harder than they used to be.

Stu, feel free to look me up if you need a hand. IGN Meloran Avenro, Dawn Hayes, or Faith Hayes (any will work, all the same account)

thanks, I'll add ya later. and yes after several more attempts, I agree, things are starting to get significantly harder.

Pick Me · Apr 21, 2008, 03:07 PM // 15:07

If you need help, I'll help.

Add me to friends: Dargoth Alfazul.

I've done the travel from Drok's to Copperhead Mines many, many, times.

If you are trying to travel from Droks to Copperhead Mines, then here are some suggestions:

Droks->Camp Rankor (little challenging, but not too difficult)->Deldrimore War Camp (somewhat more difficult)->Granite Citidel (somewhat easy)->Copperhead Mines (can be very difficult if you have a bad spawn)

Easier way:
Droks->Ice Dome (kill Stone Summits, run by ice imps to city)->Complete Mission and end up in Iron Mines of Muldune(easy - just don't attack Jade Armor or Mursaat)->walk from IMoM to Copperhead Mines (somewhat difficult, but after the 4th battle (ice golems and stone summits by the bridge), you shouldn't have much trouble.

Go into the city before talking to the guy at Copperhead Mines to completing that Vanyi's quest.

Hope this helps.

Olim Chill · Apr 21, 2008, 03:08 PM // 15:08

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Originally Posted by Stuart444

And whenever I try to pull one or two of them away, loads of them all come as if they are all in the same group, they all gang up on one person and then another until we're all dead...

As difficult as it may seem, those large Shiverpeak mobs can be pulled apart. You have play with the aggro limit until you snag just a couple, then rinse and repeat. This can be done via bow or flagging.

Keep in mind that while it's certainly doable, it's not particularly easy.

PM me here and I'll give you more details, if you want to try it.

Bront · Apr 22, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by Pick Me

Easier way:
Droks->Ice Dome (kill Stone Summits, run by ice imps to city)->Complete Mission and end up in Iron Mines of Muldune(easy - just don't attack Jade Armor or Mursaat)->walk from IMoM to Copperhead Mines (somewhat difficult, but after the 4th battle (ice golems and stone summits by the bridge), you shouldn't have much trouble.

The ice dome is between the Frozen Forest(Area outside the Copperhammer mines) and Talus Chute (The area outside Drocks). I believe you mean the Ice Caves of Sorrow mission, which is right by the Drocks.

And yeah, that mission isn't too bad if you avoid the Mursaat. If you have Heroes or a MM, they can often take the Spectral agony brunt of 1-2 of them, but more than that can be deadly.

Age · Apr 22, 2008, 09:33 AM // 09:33

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Originally Posted by Stuart444

My team took down the Ice Caves of Sorrows mission first time round, pretty easy

That is what you should be doing as it takes you to IronMines of Muldune Mission and from there you can get to Copperhammer Mines but if you are going to walk there an MM hero would be great to get at those gnashers.

Stuart444 · Apr 22, 2008, 10:54 AM // 10:54

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Originally Posted by Age

That is what you should be doing as it takes you to IronMines of Muldune Mission and from there you can get to Copperhammer Mines but if you are going to walk there an MM hero would be great to get at those gnashers.

I leave from the iron mines entrance, but as I said above, I am greeted by, a few enemies (the ones with the ice imps), then after those few enemies LOTS of seige ice golums (I think that is what they are called) and summit monsters for quite a long while

and iirc, alot of these monsters don't leave corpses (or at least that is what I read) so I haven't been bringing a MM hero

Bront · Apr 22, 2008, 12:18 PM // 12:18

Only the Spirits and Ice Golems don't leave bodies, but there are plenty of creatures that do.

Pick Me · Apr 22, 2008, 02:13 PM // 14:13

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Originally Posted by Bront

The ice dome is between the Frozen Forest(Area outside the Copperhammer mines) and Talus Chute (The area outside Drocks). I believe you mean the Ice Caves of Sorrow mission, which is right by the Drocks.

And yeah, that mission isn't too bad if you avoid the Mursaat. If you have Heroes or a MM, they can often take the Spectral agony brunt of 1-2 of them, but more than that can be deadly.

/doh!

Yeah, sorry, I did mean Ice Caves of Sorrow.

sixofone · Apr 22, 2008, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Whew! Those groups can be a pain, especially when you get 2 Dolyak Masters together!

What I've found easier is to go from Drok's to Camp Ragnor, then (believe it or not) up Snake Dance about half-way and into Grenth's Footprint. From there, it is an easy trip up to the Granite Citadel, and down to the Copperhammer Mines. I've done it several times, now, just H&H as I get my characters thru the campaign to the Fire Islands. Granite Citadel is the gateway to Tasca's Demise and Mineral Springs, which is where you can cap a lot of Elite skills (and they can only be capped there).

The Deldrimor Warcamp in Grenth's Footprint is another good (easy) area to cap elites, and gives you access to Sorrow's Furnace quests.

This has been much easier than the trek up from Ice Caves/Drok's, through Ice Dome, and then up the Frozen Forest. And coming down from Iron Mines still means those huge patrols in Frozen Forest that typically spawn very close together, so avoiding aggro on more than 1 is tricky.

My team: myself (varies); Jin (BA + interrupts); Koss W/N; Olias (Minion Bomber N/Mo hybrid); 2 healer henchies; 1 warrior; and either an ele or a ranger henchman.

Once you start to learn to control aggro, and learn when to run!!!, it gets easier.

Stuart444 · Apr 22, 2008, 04:22 PM // 16:22

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Originally Posted by sixofone

Whew! Those groups can be a pain, especially when you get 2 Dolyak Masters together!

What I've found easier is to go from Drok's to Camp Ragnor, then (believe it or not) up Snake Dance about half-way and into Grenth's Footprint. From there, it is an easy trip up to the Granite Citadel, and down to the Copperhammer Mines. I've done it several times, now, just H&H as I get my characters thru the campaign to the Fire Islands. Granite Citadel is the gateway to Tasca's Demise and Mineral Springs, which is where you can cap a lot of Elite skills (and they can only be capped there).

The Deldrimor Warcamp in Grenth's Footprint is another good (easy) area to cap elites, and gives you access to Sorrow's Furnace quests.

This has been much easier than the trek up from Ice Caves/Drok's, through Ice Dome, and then up the Frozen Forest. And coming down from Iron Mines still means those huge patrols in Frozen Forest that typically spawn very close together, so avoiding aggro on more than 1 is tricky.

My team: myself (varies); Jin (BA + interrupts); Koss W/N; Olias (Minion Bomber N/Mo hybrid); 2 healer henchies; 1 warrior; and either an ele or a ranger henchman.

Once you start to learn to control aggro, and learn when to run!!!, it gets easier.

I have been trying to find out how to get to camp rankor from droks (when looking at the maps on the wiki, I got confused for some reason) >_< I guess i'll have to have another look

Age · Apr 22, 2008, 07:19 PM // 19:19

It is not that hard to get to CopperHammer mines from Iron Mines.it is a lot easier than from Droks and bypasing the Ice Caves mission.

Malice Black · Apr 22, 2008, 07:28 PM // 19:28

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Originally Posted by Stuart444

I have been trying to find out how to get to camp rankor from droks (when looking at the maps on the wiki, I got confused for some reason) >_< I guess i'll have to have another look

Head north, you can't miss it.

Olim Chill · Apr 22, 2008, 07:38 PM // 19:38

^Yeah, head NW thru the Troll cave...you'll enjoy blowing up those mobs (confidence booster).

Stuart444 · Apr 22, 2008, 08:04 PM // 20:04

well, I got to camp rankor, that is what I get for no exploring properly :/ now hopefully I can get to copperhead mine from here, once this quest is done, I can then continue with the next few missions until I get to the fire islands ^_^